Both of these plants are mass sold as Philodendron 'Golden Goddess', which is what Costa Farms calls them. These plants were actually purchased as one $20 pot from Lowes. and split. I believe that 'Golden Goddess' is the same plant as 'Thai Sunrise.' The leaves can be varigated or not, sometimes on the same plant. Usually 'Thai Sunrise' refers to the varigated form. The more common, chartruese-only is usually classified as as a "reverted" Thai Sunrise, or Golden Goddess. #thaisunrise
I have seen it speculated that all Golden Goddess plants will eventually start putting out Thai Sunrise leaves as they mature. I am not an expert but I tend to think it is just luck of the draw. Some plants just have greater tendency toward variegation than others. It may be possible to propagate sections of plant showing the desired characteristics until you get what you want. Or just keep cutting off any leaves or nodes from a plant that are not what you like.
Recently did some research on these and it says golden goddess is the juvenile form of Thai sunrise. But what I dont understand is why Thai sunrise is so much more expensive then gg if its going to turn into a ts anyway
I don't think GG is just an immature TS, because I have seen very large GG with no variegation, and TS like mine that have varigation from the very first leaf. It's also nowhere near as rare as the prices it commands.
Basically, I think is something along the lines of a common mutation where maybe 50% of GG will shoot out a variegated leaf or section. A full TS where pretty much every leaf is variegated might be like 1 in 10. So there are many TS's out there, but it's "rare" because no supplier has figured out yet how to mass produce them. I'm sure they will soon, and then the price of TS will plummet.
Both of these plants are mass sold as Philodendron 'Golden Goddess', which is what Costa Farms calls them. These plants were actually purchased as one $20 pot from Lowes. and split. I believe that 'Golden Goddess' is the same plant as 'Thai Sunrise.' The leaves can be varigated or not, sometimes on the same plant. Usually 'Thai Sunrise' refers to the varigated form. The more common, chartruese-only is usually classified as as a "reverted" Thai Sunrise, or Golden Goddess. #thaisunrise
I have seen it speculated that all Golden Goddess plants will eventually start putting out Thai Sunrise leaves as they mature. I am not an expert but I tend to think it is just luck of the draw. Some plants just have greater tendency toward variegation than others. It may be possible to propagate sections of plant showing the desired characteristics until you get what you want. Or just keep cutting off any leaves or nodes from a plant that are not what you like.
Recently did some research on these and it says golden goddess is the juvenile form of Thai sunrise. But what I dont understand is why Thai sunrise is so much more expensive then gg if its going to turn into a ts anyway
I don't think GG is just an immature TS, because I have seen very large GG with no variegation, and TS like mine that have varigation from the very first leaf. It's also nowhere near as rare as the prices it commands.
Basically, I think is something along the lines of a common mutation where maybe 50% of GG will shoot out a variegated leaf or section. A full TS where pretty much every leaf is variegated might be like 1 in 10. So there are many TS's out there, but it's "rare" because no supplier has figured out yet how to mass produce them. I'm sure they will soon, and then the price of TS will plummet.